Ok boys & Girls...... There was a whole lot of talk at this years BHCC about a spring trip to Halls Crossing on Lake Powell. This is a post for details & information about this trip that Brian (Wadefisherman) & I are planning. So please post with your question & suggestions. But mostly, Brian & I want to hear from those that are interested in joining us so please speak up!
Halls Crossing is located uplake and is about a 7 to 8 hour drive to get there. Yes, a long way but in my opinion, well worth it. But then again, I love to drive so that's no big deal to me. The drive is a bit of an adventure as you're traveling thru the reservation, Monument Valley & includes an interesting drive up the Moki Dugway.
There are four options for you to consider for lodging:
1) Like Brian & Chris (Redmule) are doing, pull your Fifth Wheel & boat to camp in an nearby RV park w/ full hook ups that accepts reservations.
2) Stay in a "Family Unit" which is a 3 bed/2 bath trailer & share expenses, Dave (Sparkchaser) & I'll probably be choosing this option. We've done this for the past two trips. These are also reservable.
3) Like Tom (MenRats) did last year, camp in another campground that has no hook ups. The area is first come first serve.
4) Take your tent & shore camp on your new favorite beach.
Here are some of the preliminary details:
When: We're looking at dates from the last weekend in April to the first weekend of May. Brian & Chris will chime in on their plans but for Dave & I, we're considering a 5 day trip in conjunction with one of the two weekends. Open for discussions still....
How Much!: Brian will explain more about this as he's been talking with "da guy". Seems Brian has a pretty good rate going for both the RV Park & Family Units, quite a bit cheaper than what we paid the last couple years. Sounds like the more people we have going & the more units (whether that's RV spots or Family Units) we reserve, the better the rate.
Halls Crossing: Some general info, the RV park & Family Units are combined in one area & are very close to each other. MenRats campground is down the road a bit & across the street but still not far. There is a general store with supplies, although I haven't been in it so I don't know what it has. Along with gas for da boat at the fuel dock, there are both gas & diesel pumps available (credit card only as there is no attendant) very close to the RV Park & Family Units. Last couple years I thought, for where it's located at, gas/diesel prices weren't all that out of line. Both the ramp & fish cleaning station are a short drive away.
Copy & Paste FYI items:
Halls Crossing: 43 sties, 2 group sites, dump station, potable water, 2 dish sinks, hot/cold showers. Laundry, store, gas, phones, and launch ramp 1/2 mile. The concessioner also operates an RV park with 32 full hook-up sites, store, laundry, showers, and launch ramp 1/2 mile. For reservations call 800-528-6154. Fees apply.
Halls Crossing Developed Campground
Halls Crossing has has a developed campground with picnic tables, grills, centrally located bathrooms in each loop. Approximately 64 sites. Fee is $18/night. No reservations. Open all year.
Halls Crossing RV Park
Halls Crossing has an RV campground with full hookups. Accomodates most sizes of vehicles. Approximately 32 sites. Fees vary. Reservations accepted. Open all year.
Links:
Family Units: http://www.lakepowell.com/accomodations/family-accommodations.aspx
Camp: http://www.lakepowell.com/rv-and-camping/campground.aspx
Halls Crossing Map: http://www.nps.gov/glca/planyourvisit/upload/halls%20crossing%20map.pdf
Mapquest Direction from My House: http://mapq.st/SQf3Y0 (so you can enter your own address)
SO WHO WANTS TO COME ALONG? :headbang: :greengrin: :3some:
The rv stes will be $49 per day and we negotiated the family units down to $150 per day. There may be some better rates if we get multiple units. If you want to get into some walleye and smallies this is the trip for you.
I have some interest in this trip and could do a Wed-Sun trip. How does weather play into this? What's it like that time of year? Go rain, wind, or shine or shift to next week type thing? How far of a drive do most go on the water?
Good questions Matt! First thing to do is buy the Fish-n-Map of Lake Powell North. It'll help you understand what we're trying to say.
Yes, the spring weather can be unpredictable & has played a part in my past trips. We had windy days last year with sustained winds of 10-15 mph (remembered the wind but had to double check the almanac) but it was really a non factor as there are tons of places to hide. We are fishing all the side canyons off the main channel. Even with these winds & gusts the main lake conditions were nothing your boat couldn't handle. Just have to be prepared for whatever the forecast calls for.
As far as travel times, you don't have to go far to find fish! Plenty of great spots/areas/canyons near the Halls Crossing ramp to catch fish. Heck, two years ago w/ da wife we caught Walleye & an occasional Striper or two trolling around an island about a 1/2 mile from the ramp. I understand what you're asking & I was wondering the same thing my first time there. You make your own adventure...
I might be interested, couple questions?
whey hall crossing instead of Walweap?
if up north fishing better whey halls instead of bullfrog? since it is closer, have stayed in the family units at bullfrog and it was great long story but due to weather the plans to camp got shut down and the people at bullfrog gave us a great deal on the house trailers and that included a slip at the marina with a security guard there at night?
are you targeting crappie or what ever bites?
thanks
Matt, most beautiful lake in the state and she can be a gem for fishing or she can be a very mean lady :o have had snow and hail storms in April and May and wind storms that almost rolled our 50' house boat coming into walweap out of warm creek, watched house boats that broke loose from mooring field washed 50' up onto rocky beaches from the waves, been other times where the lake was a lady and calm and fantastic weather ;D
Last year was my first trip to Powell, so I don't have any hair raising stories (which is good, cause I'm bald!).. ;D
Weather was really a non-factor... Tho we were prepared for everything... :dontknow:
Brian and I stayed fairly close to home, except for one morning... We went 30 miles or more upriver, but we were catching as many fish close to home...
To give you some idea, between the seven people (3 boats), we caught over 140 Walleye in 3 days... Caught some Bass and yes, even Crappie... :3some:
I have to defer to Larry and Brian for all info, but this trip is a great one... :dance:
OK. Who's got an open back seat and whats the date. If I'm not in the middle of moving and at this time it doesn't look like it.
Quote from: Fishless on October 29, 2012, 03:15 AMwhey hall crossing instead of Walweap?
if up north fishing better whey halls instead of bullfrog? since it is closer
are you targeting crappie or what
No expert on Lake Powell as this will only be my third trip - all to Halls Crossing. Others will give you their opinion but in talking with members from the old Walleye club, Walleye fishing is much better up lake than in the southern end. My opinion only, water temps are cooler especially in the spring during the spawn making it more attractive for Walleye.
Halls Crossing is closer than Bullfrog. Bullfrog is on the north side of the lake while Halls is across the bay on the south side. Some additional drive time or ferry boat ride from Halls is needed to get there. That's what Mapquest says also. Of course I've never been there but that's my thoughts, I could be wrong though!
And yes, Walleye & Crappie are our targets. I ran into a nice school of slabs two years ago in the back of a canyon. Brought back a limit. Brian & Chris caught a couple nice Crappie last year. Hopefully again this year there is an unlimited harvest on Walleye.
LLL
OK thanks
wow, I looked at my post from this morning my fingers or brain weren't working very well :laugh:
I'm going to be in on this trip. This fall was my first time up north and I launched out of bullfrog but as stated earlier it's right across from Halls. I generally fish the South end out of Wahweap in the spring time. I've done very well and gone for severaly years straight. Either south or north end of the lake you'll catch fish. So far I've been fairy lucky with weather, I did get stuck in some 40mph winds up there however I fished pretty much through it as I was able to find some relatively decent cover in canyons. If you fish hard and try proven techniques we've put 50 to 100 fish in the boat in a day
I also will probably only be going from Wednesday after work until Sunday. At the moment there is a decent chance I'll have an open seat. I'll need to confirm, but should know sooner than later.
Quote from: Fish Hawk on October 29, 2012, 08:18 AM
OK. Who's got an open back seat and whats the date. If I'm not in the middle of moving and at this time it doesn't look like it.
I had better say I'll be last minute for this one. I don't want to commit and than not be able to go
Camp-n Nana and I are in !!! We would like to share a family unit. I don't want to drag my 5th wheel and boat due to gas expense ( 8 miles to the gallon on the Dodge Ram and about 6 on the F-250 ( diesel)---soooooo where do we go from here ?
BTW---Camp-n Nana and I have fished Lake Powell for many many years---up lake is definitely the place to have base camp--Halls Crossing or Bull Frog, typically the better part of the lake--
Quote from: The Desert Rat on October 30, 2012, 06:20 AMCamp-n Nana and I are in !!! We would like to share a family unit---soooooo where do we go from here ?
Outstanding!! We'll put you on da list. How many days were you guys thinking & what days of that week? Stay tuned for more details.....
We will be first in and last out---we love Powell---a clarification--we WILL have our boat and can fish 4 easily---soooo, another couple want to join in and split expenses ( housing and gas etc??)
I am 80% likely going on this trip. I can make a Wed thru Sun trip. I'd prefer as a newbie to this lake to ride along with someone or take my boat and get someone familiar with the lake on my boat. I'll commit (or not) by March/April time frame.
Brian and I talked about taking the RV to Halls Crossing, and came up with the same conclusion as Desert Rat... Share a trailer with a couple others...
One thing else... Brian and I can both take boats... Leaving room for couple or three more people... Just a thought...
The biggest expense is the fuel getting there, so spreading that around will help...
I can not make a serious commitment at this point in time but throwing a dart at the wall I will say Marvin and I will be about 65% in for this trip
Brian & Chris - how many days are you thinking of staying & from what day to what day?
Fishless, Fish Hawk & On da Rocks - same question, how many days were you guys thinking of staying?
Maybe Brian & Chris plus Desert Rat w/ Campin Nana should think about getting one unit for yourselves as I'm thinking you guys are probably staying the longest? Anybody else thinking about staying for a week or so?
Ok, for the possible Wednesday-Sunday crew: mrokuesk, wheatThin, Mike & Debbie (Husband/Wife couple I work with & former members of the Walleye Club) Anybody else thinking about these days?
And I still need to chat with Sparkchaser!
Who else out there is interested........
Quote from: redmule on October 31, 2012, 07:49 AMBrian and I talked about taking the RV to Halls Crossing, and came up with the same conclusion as Desert Rat... Share a trailer with a couple others...
I had the same thought of pulling my Fifth Wheel & Boat - for a split second that is!! Just not worth it given gas vs. sharing lodging expenses. Good choice & I like the 2 boat idea if it helps others make this trip more attractive & doable.
The Merlot Kid and I are contemplating this as we planned on heading back to Idaho the last week of April. We would have out RV trailer and pontoon with us and would leave from there for Idaho. Still discussing the number of days. :ecomcity: :3some:
I think me and Chris want to rent a family unit as well. I think if we can share it with two other people it would work out pretty well. I think 7 days would be perfect.
I am in for this trip for whatever. I am thinking 7 days, with 5 being on the water. Gotta remember two of your days are travel days.
right on as they say in todays vernacular. you dudes better not steal my campin spot. its hte one on the end in the nwcorner, 24 as i recall. other considerations:
the drive is beauty the mokidugi is nicely gravelled and no big deal as long as you dont look down.
the camping facilities are out in the open and windswept, not much shade nice elctric hot water showers and restroom facilities. usualluy the guy at the rv spot will let you plug in the boat. not crowded at all last year. the view is outrageously gorgeous. well worth putting up with the elements to me anyhows,
the store sucks ice is 5bucks plus. worms are the ticket and their supply is dodgy. well need to go in on a flat again.good call champ.
the whole place is roughly ninety miles from the nearest twon so pack it in and keep it cold. you dont want to rely on pickin stuff up there. it is a remote area although there are lots of peeps around.
the sustained winds were not fun. triple l is correct that ther are many hiding spot and the places we hit were mostly cuts in rock but we encountered open water in halls and bllfog and up and down the channel. youre unit matt would be a very wet and long run.
the fishing was beauty. troll rigs, vertical jig, toss a jig on the bank and bounce it down the rockslides. all productive for eyes largemouths and gills. drag a crank tipped with worm for eyes and smallies. its all good and plenty.
come on fearless jump in baby. get your butt and tent up there and well take care of yas from there.fishhawk youre certainly welcome to join me any where except the tent. indeed ill be calling the may meetin from out front of triple ls place at 5 friday just before we dine.
yes i did have a blast last year until the dreaded crud drove me from my perch. this year well be beterr. well also need to concieve a eye tourney or most fish or most species tourney. so one of can get our gas reimbursed.
BUMP!
Dave (Sparkchaser) & I are now thinking a 7 day trip - leaving on Saturday, April 27th returning Friday, May 3rd. That'll be 5 full days on the lake plus a 1/2 day after arriving on Saturday.
LLL
im either sat befoer for a full week or tues till sun.
This trip sounds better every time I read the thread. I'm going to give it some serious thought. Is a 20 foot Nitro enough boat for that lake? Seems like a bass boat on Powell may not be the best idea.
Stevert, we fished all over the lake last year.. Went 30-35 miles up lake one day... But I think the best fishing we had was within a couple miles of Halls Crossing... There are tons of coves and canyons you can go into to wait out the wind, if need be... Last years trip was my first to Powell, but I didn't see anything that would cause you any problems with a bass boat... Heck, I'm thinking about taking my 16' Lowe...
Quote from: Stevert on November 09, 2012, 12:54 PMThis trip sounds better every time I read the thread. I'm going to give it some serious thought. Is a 20 foot Nitro enough boat for that lake? Seems like a bass boat on Powell may not be the best idea.
Don't over think it Steve! I sure did my first time there. I too was worried my 18' Ranger wouldn't "be enough" for Powell. As Chris mentioned, plenty of places to hide & fish if the weather does turn. I've seen plenty of bass boats on the lake so you will have absolutely no problem with your rig. Ask Joe as he's had his Stratos on Powell a number of times.
We'd love to have you join us Steve for Spring Walleye Fest on beautiful Lake Powell.......
LLL
Walleye fest.........you guys are really making things interesting. I love to fish and this trip sounds better with every post. I'm thinking I'm in.
Quote from: Stevert on November 09, 2012, 08:20 PMWalleye fest.........you guys are really making things interesting. I love to fish and this trip sounds better with every post. I'm thinking I'm in.
Teaser Alert....
Here's my friend Mike with our freezer full of Walleye last year. Damn package of frozen french fries was taking up way too much space!
(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/cousinlll/8C6043B8-5B87-4D62-B3B4-3B748761D51C-151-00000005403977EA.jpg)
I bought a small deep freezer to take with us this trip for just our fish this year, thats how confident I am :) Saying that we will probably get skunked :(
Quote from: wadefisherman on November 10, 2012, 01:00 PMI bought a small deep freezer to take with us this trip for just our fish this year, thats how confident I am :) Saying that we will probably get skunked :(
I had the same thought - Just didn't want to jinx us. My Mom had a small freezer & was thinking of making it my official Lake Powell fish freezer.... ;D
Bump....
Bumping this to the top for possible conversation at Saturday's meeting/lunch....
We need to start firming things up for this trip on who's wanting to come and get some commitments on reservations on the cabins and who's stayin with who as well as boats or pairing up people. Was wondering if we could get a lake Powell thread added in the forums?
Once again---Campin Nana and are in---pulling the boat, need to share a condo with another cpouple----Sandman????
Quote from: wadefisherman on December 28, 2012, 07:05 AMWe need to start firming things up for this trip on who's wanting to come and get some commitments on reservations on the cabins and who's stayin with who as well as boats or pairing up people. Was wondering if we could get a lake Powell thread added in the forums?
Agree!!! Dave & I are all in for 7 days. Assuming David & Nanna are in for 7 days also? Brian, you guys still in for 7 also & has Willie committed yet? How about you Joe, have you talked to Dick more about it.
Other question I have is from what day to what day?
Oh, and I know Phaz from The Zone was also interested in this trip when I was talking to him about it a month or so ago. He wanted me/us to keep him in da loop. Although given the latest news about him, we might have to wait a bit on that.
Ok, so I'm gonna throw this out for conversation....
My friend & co-worker Eric has been going on this trip with us the last couple years. This time, he's looking for a backseat for both himself & his father and was wondering if anybody might have an open couple seats they would be willing to share. He's driving his father back home to Missouri & would like to make a stop at Halls Crossing to fish with his father. Given that he's driving from Powell to Missouri afterwords, he'll be unable to take a boat.
Eric already has his own accommodations & does have a few Walleye honey holes of his own from previous trips to share. So if there's a solo out there that is interested in going but would like a knowledgeable backseat, please let me know.....
Thanks
LLL
Me & Chris for 7 days 4 sure, Willie has not committed yet.
Dave & I have been looking at the calendar & seems like the best dates that work for us are:
Departing PHX for Halls Crossing on Saturday, April 27th & returning home on Saturday, May 4th. That'll give us 6 1/2 or so days of fishing.......
Brian, next time you talk to your contact at Halls Crossing - see if there's anything he can do about boat rental rates reference to my backseat post above. No sure but it might be for only 4 or 5 days. Thx!
LLL
Quote from: The Desert Rat on December 29, 2012, 02:21 PM
Once again---Campin Nana and are in---pulling the boat, need to share a condo with another cpouple----Sandman????
Dave, it doesn't look like we are going to be able to make this one.
April 27th to May 4th works real good for the Merlot Kid and I. We can boogie right on to Idaho from there :ecomcity: :3some:
Come on Kelly, find a way to make it work.You can do it! :banghead:
Quote from: cousinlll on January 04, 2013, 03:08 AMDeparting PHX for Halls Crossing on Saturday, April 27th & returning home on Saturday, May 4th. That'll give us 6 1/2 or so days of fishing.......
Quote from: freshwater on January 04, 2013, 09:26 AMApril 27th to May 4th works real good for the Merlot Kid and I. We can boogie right on to Idaho from there
Thanks Freshwater! Chris, Brian & whomever else.....
Are these dates good? Reason I'm asking is that both Dave & I will need to get the dates reserved on our vacation book at work - the sooner the better.
Brian and I will check with the boss and see if we can go...
Yep, we're good... :dance:
Right in the middle of our vacations... How 'bout that... :laugh:
I'm in the book for that week, so it's a go for me. Hope to get the prices nailed down soon.
CampN Nana and I are looking for a couple to share expenses--I'll drive , seats 4 comfortably, pulling boat , fishes 4 easily----call me 602-430-0166
Great talking to you again Dave. We're looking forward to a fantastic time with You and Debbie at LP. See ya at Bartlett. Joe
Quote from: Halibut Warrior on January 20, 2013, 05:58 PMGreat talking to you again Dave. We're looking forward to a fantastic time with You and Debbie at LP. See ya at Bartlett. Joe
So Joe, you & Dick in on our trip? If so, glad you guys can make it. It'll be a great time! I'm assuming you & Dick are rooming with David/Nana?
So let's see here, looks like the people that have committed to this trip are: Brian & Chris, David & Nana, Joe & Dick along with Dave & myself
Who else......
I think my buddy Tom wants to go as well, he will b fishing with me and Chris.
Thats right Larry, we're gonna meet up with Dave at Bartlett on Wednesday and chat about it some more. We are committed and waiting to give our deposits for the family units.
Quote from: cousinlll on January 20, 2013, 07:03 PM
So let's see here, looks like the people that have committed to this trip are: Brian & Chris, David & Nana, Joe & Dick along with Dave & myself
Who else......
I think earlier on this thread I saw Freshwater and Merlot Kid were doing this trip on their way back to Idaho.
Other maybes or last minute deciders may be Fish Hawk, MeNRats, me?
im in. campin at spot number 24. matt why dont u take 25 and well take turns with the boats, mine one day urs the next.
Quote from: mrokusek on January 21, 2013, 07:10 AM
Quote from: cousinlll on January 20, 2013, 07:03 PM
So let's see here, looks like the people that have committed to this trip are: Brian & Chris, David & Nana, Joe & Dick along with Dave & myself
Who else......
I think earlier on this thread I saw Freshwater and Merlot Kid were doing this trip on their way back to Idaho.
Oh yes! Sorry, dropped my head there - thx Matt
Please provide me with details on rooms, rates , where to send $$$ etc etc----
Joe, see you Wednesday--I should hit the lake around 9ish---
Quote from: menrats on January 21, 2013, 07:29 AM
im in. campin at spot number 24. matt why dont u take 25 and well take turns with the boats, mine one day urs the next.
Tom, I don't see a way to reserve camping spots. Isn't it first come first serve? Have you considered getting a family unit (has 3 beds) for $150/night? We'd need at least 1 other and then $50/person per night I could swallow. For a week out there it sure would be nice to have good living conditions to come home to after a day on the lake. It would making cooking and sleeping that much better.
Or anyone else who has a family unit want one more person? Would save you money. I read it says 2 queen beds and 1 twin bed.
3 bed, 2 bath, full kitchen, and a living room. 2 queen beds, and one twin.
The family unit layout is: front of the single wide mobile home is the master suite, so to speak, w/ queen bed & attached bath. Then in the back is another separate queen bedroom, a separate twin bedroom & separate full bath. The living room & full kitchen are center.
From past experience, it seems to work good if you have a husband/wife couple up front in the master suite then fill the other bedrooms with da crew. Last year, Dave & I shared one back bedroom w/ Dave taking the bed and me sleeping on a cot that I brought. We moved the bed over against the wall making room for the cot. We probably did have a few too many people in our unit last year as we had a husband/wife up front, Dave & I in the back bedroom, Brian in the other bedroom along with Chris & another friend of mine on cots in the living room. It was doable but was a bit crowded. It did, however, keep our costs down. Weather was nice so we sat outside on lawn chairs I brought with along with the picnic table that was already there.
Keep in mind that, for the most part, everybody was on the water from morning till about dark. We assigned guys that fished together in one boat to cook supper for the group one night - for example Dave & I fished together in my boat so on our assigned night, we came in a bit early to cook for the rest of the crew allowing them to fish until dark & have a hot meal ready upon their arrival. We pretty much had supper, cleaned up/showered & then a beverage or too before bedtime. We also chose our last night there as fish fry night - everybody would pool a small bit of their weeks catch together for a group fish fry.
Matt---Give me a call 602-430-0166-----If Joe and Dick are OK witht he arrangement--we should have room--of course you get to do the dishes :)
I'm in for this trip. I figured you don't get an opportunity like this to hit that lake with others familiar with it so I gotta take advantage of that. Assuming Dick and Joe are o.k. with it, I'll share the family unit with them as a 5th person. Sorry Tom Menrats I'd rather get indoors for this long instead of camping it. Note that if more people later want in like FishHawk or others and want to share a Family Unit, I could switch if it helps even out the financial burden and allows others to go on the trip.
Tom, I'd still like to fish your boat and mine if you are o.k. with that. I'm a little nervous wondering if my truck and boat can make the 6 hour drive but can't see any reason why it wouldn't. Don't want to say anything to jinx myself but may just have.....
Quote from: mrokusek on January 22, 2013, 06:20 PMI'm in for this trip. I figured you don't get an opportunity like this to hit that lake with others familiar with it so I gotta take advantage of that.
That a boy Matt!!
Quote from: freshwater on January 04, 2013, 09:26 AMApril 27th to May 4th works real good for the Merlot Kid and I. We can boogie right on to Idaho from there
Hey Guys, just to make sure we're on the same page - your planning on staying in a family unit also correct?
LLL
Larry, where do we stand right now... Don't know if you have another couple lined up with Brian and me, or not... Brian has a probable to make a third in our boat...
Also, what is the boat situation? Who all is taking boats, and how much room for passengers do they have...
I think we need to nail some of this down so Brian can get off a hold on however many cabins we'll need...
Don't know about you, but I'm getting stoked for this one... Let's just hope the weather and fish cooperate like last year... :3some:
For any that are pondering whether to go or not, I can tell you, we had a blast last year... More AZCA members can only make it better... Come on, and jump in... :dance:
I am hoping we have decent weather for the Feb meeting at Alamo, and can discuss this a lot further... I have site C-36 reserved for Thurs-Sun that week, (Feb 10th, I think)... :dontknow:
Thanks for taking the time to put this together... We really do appreciate it... :notworthy:
Quote from: redmule on January 23, 2013, 09:52 AMLarry, where do we stand right now...
So as of now, in the first family unit seems like Desert Rat w/ Nana are sharing with Halibut Warrior & his friend Dick. I believe Matt will also be joining them. That'll put 1 couple & 3 singles in that family unit. I think David & Joe are talking more about this today while fishing Bartlett.
Waiting to hear back from Freshwater w/ Merlot Kid as the second couple. They would then take the second family unit's master suite.
That would then leave Chris, Brian, Brian's friend, Sparkchaser & I to figure out our lodging arrangements. Rats seems happy in his favorite camp spot, unless he has changed his mind. Who did I forget........
Quote from: redmule on January 23, 2013, 09:52 AMBrian has a probable to make a third in our boat. Also, what is the boat situation? Who all is taking boats, and how much room for passengers do they have...
I'm assuming that Desert Rat & Nana will be in their boat with Halibut Warrior & Dick in Joe's boat. I'll have mine sharing with Sparkchaser. Matt & Rats are probably still in negotiations as to who brings which boat. Freshwater & the Merlot Kid will probably have their pontoon?
Which leads me to ask this question: Anybody have room for a friend of mine & his father for 2 or 3 days? See reply #36 above. He has a few Walleye honey holes to share.... Brian, next time you talk with the guy at Halls Crossing would you mind checking into any deals on fishing boat rental rates for 2 or 3 days out of either Halls or Bullfrog. Thx
Quote from: redmule on January 23, 2013, 09:52 AMI think we need to nail some of this down so Brian can get off a hold on however many cabins we'll need...
Totally agree! Looks like two family units for now.....
Quote from: redmule on January 23, 2013, 09:52 AMDon't know about you, but I'm getting stoked for this one... Let's just hope the weather and fish cooperate like last year... :3some: For any that are pondering whether to go or not, I can tell you, we had a blast last year... More AZCA members can only make it better... Come on, and jump in... :dance:
Come on guys, lets fill a third family unit. It'll be a great time! Even if you're thinking about a 5 day trip instead of the 7 day trip we're doing - please speak up. I'm getting stoked as well Chris!
I had replied a few months ago that Kyle and I will be up there. I don't see us doing a full week and will more than likely camp but I'll confirm with Kyle this week. We will do a 4-5 day trip.
Quote from: WheatThin on January 23, 2013, 04:34 PMI had replied a few months ago that Kyle and I will be up there. I don't see us doing a full week and will more than likely camp but I'll confirm with Kyle this week. We will do a 4-5 day trip.
Good deal! Are you guys shore camping on the lake or hanging out with Rats w/ his killer chili & alfredo at his favorite camping spot..... :headbang:
I'm ready to make a call to reserve our cabins, just need to know if it will be 2 or 3 units.
Sorry we've been out of touch down to QZ. The Kid and I will have our RV and our pontoon. So we'll be in the campground. Does anybody have a phone # for the camp ground. & or a campground web site. Thanx :3some:
Hey CousinIII The Merlot Kid and will cover your back seatters and some where on here I thought I saw the particulars on the camping. :3some: Let me know if you still need us . It is on a 20' pontoon 90hp 4cycle Merc and a 70lb thrust trolling mtr.. Comfy but no Jacuzzy hot pool. :dontknow:
NO JACUZZI!!! Crap, I was gonna go with you till I heard that... Oh well... :crybaby2:
Quote from: freshwater on January 23, 2013, 09:00 PMThe Kid and I will have our RV and our pontoon. So we'll be in the campground. Does anybody have a phone # for the camp ground. & or a campground web site. Thanx
Ok, Freshwater - See the very first post on this thread as I included some links for camping. http://www.lakepowell.com/rv-and-camping/campground.aspx
You basically have 2 options: The RV Park with full hookups that are located next to the Family Units we've been talking about or the campground which is about a mile or so away from the Family Units. As for the RV Park, get with wadefisherman as he might have info on the cost & could possibly be able to reserve a RV site for you when he reserves our Family Units.
The campground is a first come first deal (no reservations) with no hookups. This is where Rats stays so he's more familiar with it & can provide you with more info.
LLL
Quote from: freshwater on January 23, 2013, 09:15 PMHey CousinIII The Merlot Kid and will cover your back seatters and some where on here I thought I saw the particulars on the camping. :3some: Let me know if you still need us . It is on a 20' pontoon 90hp 4cycle Merc and a 70lb thrust trolling mtr.. Comfy but no Jacuzzy hot pool.
Thanks Freshwater - I will pass the info along to my friend & get back with you in the near future with further info............
CampN Nana, Halibit Warrior, Dick and Matt will share the accomodations---Joe, Dick,Nana and I are fishing out of my boat---we are good to go--share details when you get them--
Menrats, we should figure out boat situation. I'd be happy riding yours or someone else's boat for this trip instead of taking mine of course paying for gas and supplies as needed. I'd rather not take both boats up if we can help it. I could take my boat if needed though. Freshwater may have room in his pontoon and maybe others do. Tough to solve this on message board as we are trying to solve lodging situation and boat situation. Maybe we need to setup a spreadsheet for this one including people attending, where they are staying, what boat they are on, and from there we can see if we have enough to combine folks for a 3rd family unit as well as know what boats have room. Let me know if you want me to do that.
Quote from: mrokusek on January 24, 2013, 07:34 AMMaybe we need to setup a spreadsheet for this one including people attending, where they are staying, what boat they are on, and from there we can see if we have enough to combine folks for a 3rd family unit as well as know what boats have room. Let me know if you want me to do that.
Per your request Matt ....... :greengrin: See the attached document - tentative & certainly not set in stone! :icon_jokercolor:
And for those that haven't figured this out by now, it's my middle name:
Anal retentiveness: From Wikipedia - The term, commonly abbreviated to anal, is used conversationally to describe a person who pays such attention to detail that the obsession becomes an annoyance to others, potentially to the detriment of the anal-retentive person. :banghead: :ecomcity: :ecomcity: :ecomcity: :dontknow:
Quote from: cousinlll on January 24, 2013, 04:13 PM
Quote from: mrokusek on January 24, 2013, 07:34 AMMaybe we need to setup a spreadsheet for this one including people attending, where they are staying, what boat they are on, and from there we can see if we have enough to combine folks for a 3rd family unit as well as know what boats have room. Let me know if you want me to do that.
Per your request Matt ....... :greengrin: See the attached document - tentative & certainly not set in stone! :icon_jokercolor:
And for those that haven't figured this out by now, it's my middle name: Anal retentiveness: From Wikipedia - The term, commonly abbreviated to anal, is used conversationally to describe a person who pays such attention to detail that the obsession becomes an annoyance to others, potentially to the detriment of the anal-retentive person. :banghead: :ecomcity: :ecomcity: :ecomcity: :dontknow:
I think its a lack things to do at work, and sence it was done from work you had QA watching lol
I called Ralph today and reserved 2 cabins (Trailers) for us, he is checking to see if he can improve on the $150 per night charge. He is giving us to 2 side by side and I asked him to keep a 3rd in reserve across from the 2 cabins in case we need it. He said they do not get busy until June so holding cabins will not be an issue. He'll let me know if the price improves. He said a 26lb and 16lb striper were caught this week in that area. Look out EYES and SLABS, GAME ON!!!!!!!! This is our superbowl of fishing....oh yeah!!!! Can u tell I'm getting a little excited? :blob1: :lol_hitting:
Quote from: wadefisherman on January 30, 2013, 09:26 AMHe said a 26lb and 16lb striper were caught this week in that area. Look out EYES and SLABS, GAME ON!!!!!!!! This is our superbowl of fishing....oh yeah!!!!
Here's the link to a thread for the story of the 28.3 lbs Striper caught by a 13 year old kid: http://www.wayneswords.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=27&func=view&catid=8&id=49101
That a boy Brian..... Please let us know if & when we owe you $$. To throw a monkey wrench in things - I could
possibly have an additional husband/wife couple looking for a room - will know for sure in a couple days.
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now any decent event spreadshiit is gunna have whos doin dinner where. im thinking ill pick up a night af elk burgers and dogs for one night at the camp sight probably one of the first nights to save cooler space. with a side of alfredo. we should perhaps put arrival dates on the shiit too. im in sat to sat or tues to sun.
dont screw up like me and pay twice as much for camping this is off season 9 bucks a night not the 18? i paid last time.
whomever gets there first on sat or if someone would score my campsite for me on tues id be in your debt. im pretty sure its no 24 on the northwest corner overlooking the lake and marina. theres two trees there and probably still some leftover valley fever fungus on the picnic table.
matt as to ridn in the hejira with the rats your welcome. indeed cordially invited. however im not a fanatic about being out there at the crack of dawn nor if its too windy. my number one goal is to catch eyes and then to eat them. but im bringing a book or two and may sit a mornin or afternoon out here or there to chill and read. further i would urge you to camp it is overwhelmingly gorgeous
hot water showers, the only downside is if its too windy. there is basically no shelter from the wind or rain for that matter.
yo wheatthin im in for perhaps two evenings of lakeshore campin but am worried that the tinny wouldnt do good rockin on the shore all night. are there decent sandy areas that would protect the boat? are there skunks roamin the usual campin spots? is there maid service to sweep the sand out of my tent each day?
Ralph didn't mention needing a deposit to hold the cabins, just took my name and said we r good to go.
Tom, I've never had any problems with animals shore camping. I find the skunks and other things like to stick where more people are dumping and leaving leftovers. If i go further up lake for stripers like I think I will, more than likely we'll stay out for a night or too to save gas and the hour long drive each way. Otherwise I'll try and score a camp spot next to you. Also, still debating on arrival and departure. I'll either arrive Friday late night after working all day and leave Wednesday or arrive late Tuesday night and leave Sunday. More than likely I'll play it by ear with the weather and schedule according to that.
Quote from: freshwater on January 23, 2013, 09:15 PMHey CousinIII The Merlot Kid and will cover your back seaters Let me know if you still need us . It is on a 20' pontoon Comfy but no Jacuzzi
Hey Freshwater
Update for you - Your offer was greatly appreciated!! My coworker/friend has decided to pass on this years trip. So sounds like it's just you & The Merlot Kid hanging out in the on-board jacuzzi you're installing on your pontoon. Party on! :greengrin: Seriously though, Thank you again!
LLL
things are looking better for me on me on making this trip.
Quote from: Fish Hawk on February 13, 2013, 06:12 PMthings are looking better for me on me on making this trip.
That a boy Billy Ho!! Keep working on it...... Love to have you join us :dance: :headbang:
saw a garret edwards show last weekend of him catching crappie at powell. 25ft deep in the back of coves. late april. of course super clear conditions. he was jigging in any deep sticks he could find. he caught a bunch. im gunna work for some slabs this trip too.
I really enjoyed catching crappie in the back bays last year. If you find brush there is a good chance some crappie will be lurking nearby.
I'm sure we will devote at least one day to chase slabs. Hard to believe how far those coves go back. Like a maze getting back there.
For what it's worth, here's my Crappie spot I found in Ceder Canyon two years ago: http://goo.gl/maps/dvm4g
From the green arrow to the sharp finger point I graphed suspended fish, assumed it was Crappie so put away the Walleye gear & pulled out the RoadRunners w/ BBC. Trolled back in forth in that small area and caught 10 nice Crappie. Lake ended just past that point with submerged trees.
Lake elevation at that time was 3611' and currently the lake elevation is 3603'. Couldn't find them last year with the lake elevation at 3635' so maybe they'll come back to play this year.
thx larry i hope u left a marker for me. :dance:
OK boys & girls - couple months away........... :occasion14:
So I received a PM from TRITOON - Wade & Patty are very interested in joining us on this trip. He was asking if there are any couples out there looking to share a Family Unit. Not sure what to tell him so I mentioned that I would post about it. Tom - you still going solo or have you thought about bringing Brenda and/or trading in the tent for a room in a Family Unit? Looking for ideas & suggestions on lodging arraignments. Brian - I believe you commented about the availability of a 3rd Family Unit being on standby if we needed it.
Here is a list of people in Family Units that I know of so far: David & Nana, Joe, Joe's friend Dick, Matt, Brian, Brian's friend, Chris, Dave & me. Think we have Fish Hawk almost committed but is still on the bubble. Anybody else still thinking about joining in??
Thoughts & comments.............
They have plenty of cabins open, how many people do we want in each unit? There r 3 bedrooms, but someone can use the living room to keep costs down (cot or couch). 3= $50 per day, 4= $37.50, 5=$30. I think 5 is the max we should have in each unit, 3 is the least.
brenda would kill me after two days. truly aint nothin but fishin at halls crossing. just me and the rats again. if i had the buks to put us on a 50ft houseboat for a week that would be a hard sell. i dont get it dudes why would u want to stay in a shak when u can have the canyon view in the mornin. running water is overated. only the weather will make a fool of me in the tent. i would really like a cab over for the trip though that would provide element protection. i have invited matt to ride alng dont know if he wants to put up woth an old spot poacher like me though. im jazzed though. just to feel optimistic about catchin not just fishin when hitting the water is really nice and thats how i feel about this trip.
I looked at cousinlll's Lake Powell spreadsheet and I am a 5th person with David, Debra, Joe, and Dick. We haven't met to finalize meals and other stuff so if needed, I could shift to a 3rd trailer. If you can really confirm Wade, Patty, and FishHawk, then I could move as 4th person to the 3rd trailer. Would like to confirm by early March as we are planning meals and other arrangements if I'm with the David & Debra's group.
As far as fishing, I'd rather not haul my boat up there if possible this trip. I'd be willing to ride along with someone who has a boat. Menrats offered but not sure we both need to bring boats. Would like to see what Wade, Patty, and FishHawk are doing for boats. cousinlll, time to update the spreadsheet. This is gonna be a fun trip!
Quote from: mrokusek on February 22, 2013, 07:39 AMI looked at cousinlll's Lake Powell spreadsheet and I am a 5th person with David, Debra, Joe, and Dick. . cousinlll, time to update the spreadsheet.
Ya know Matt, I was kind of teasing you with that so called "spreadsheet".... :icon_jokercolor:
Anyway, that so called "spreadsheet" doesn't mean a thing! People are certainly free to bunk with whomever. Was trying to figure out how many trailers we might need to accommodate everybody. And yes, with Wade & Patty it does open up a 3rd trailer. I totally agree with Brian regarding the number of people per trailer. As long as everybody has a bed, or place for a cot in my case, I'm good with whatever.....
Again I think once we get the final tally we can shuffle people around. All we are going to be doing in the trailer is sleeping, cooking dinners, and showering. I think if we can, split couples up to each trailer. Then all of us going solo can fill the spaces. That way we can utilize the space better. I agree though 4 to 5 solo people per trailer.
Hey guys, just couldn't stand all the excitement that has been being generated with this trip. We are shifting some things around to be able to make this thing happen and I think we may just about have it all in order. That is why we waited so long to jump in as we wanted to be pretty sure it would happen. Matt: that would be great for you to jump on over to the 3rd unit with us, give you a little more room and if Fshhawk can make it that would benefit us all. Our daughter and son-in-law may be coming up but staying in the campground so they will be with us in our boat, we are still waiting to hear back from them. This will be our first time with this type of fishing so any pointers on poles, line, and anything else would be very helpful. We have our crappie gear and that is about it. I did look at the links LLL posted with the tackle so have an idea of what to bring in that area.
Thanks Larry and everyone else who has helped put this thing together because it is always a big pain in the butt to try and organize a bunch of misfits like us but you guys have done a great job. Look forward to getting back on the water and enjoying time with each of you.
Will we need to put in a special order for all the crawlers we will need? Will Probably need a full flat for the week for each trailer. How early should we put an order in?
Quote from: wadefisherman on February 22, 2013, 07:06 PMWill we need to put in a special order for all the crawlers we will need? Will Probably need a full flat for the week for each trailer. How early should we put an order in?
Hey Dave - can you talk to Richard at Liars Korner about this. See if you can get us an AZCA discount :dontknow: :greengrin: on maybe 3 or 4 flats? I don't know, will we need more than that?
Quote from: TRITOON on February 22, 2013, 11:07 AMThis will be our first time with this type of fishing so any pointers on poles, line, and anything else would be very helpful. We have our crappie gear and that is about it. I did look at the links LLL posted with the tackle so have an idea of what to bring in that area.
Wade, I'll post my thoughts about rods in the other thread you mentioned.
I was thinking back to last year and between 8 people we went through a flat in 3 days. Might need more for this trip. Maybe 4 people to a flat for the week? Once we come up with a number I'll talk to Richard. I'm hoping he will hook us up on a price. Last year it was 75 per flat, but we only got one.
Maybe a flat for each boat. Last year we had one flat for 3 boats, 7 fisherman for 3.5 days and it seemed to be just right. So 7 days for 3-4 fisherman should be about right per flat.
Just my .02 but me and Dick use a modified crawler harness and slow death rig that only requires a half night crawler. Bait goes farther with this method and it is deadly. We can do show and tell after the next meeting in a group therepy session if you want. :dance: :dance:
Quote from: Halibut Warrior on February 23, 2013, 08:33 PMslow death rig that only requires a half night crawler
Would like to see your set up Joe, thanks for offering! I've used it a few time & it's an interesting technique so here's a couple links: http://youtu.be/__viZ5Qxri4 http://www.mustad.no/www2010/products/product-news/a-perspective-on-perfection
Hey, did Dick give up on his Lindy rigs?
As a matter of fact.....he did. He took Wally G and co. to Oak Bay last July and all he did was troll, and became a believer. I explained my method in the tackle section.
I know it's a little early, but just a reminder for everyone going to go on this trip. Remeber to go to Utah game and fish and buy your license. It's 8 bucks and good for 365 days. You will get an immediate downloadable licence, and mailed the more permanent one within a week.
Quote from: sparkchaser on February 28, 2013, 08:42 AMRemember to go to Utah game and fish and buy your license. It's 8 bucks and good for 365 days. You will get an immediate downloadable license, and mailed the more permanent one within a week.
Good reminder Champ! You can do it online or at a local retailer but I'd recommend getting it online. Like Dave mentioned, if you get it online you will have the chance to download & print your license right then but they will also mail you a hard copy. You're buying the "365 Day Reciprocal Permit Lake Powell AZ RESIDENT" for, as Dave also mentioned, $8. If you want a 2 pole license, buy the "365 Day NonRes Second Pole Fishing Permit" for $15. Remember that this is a "Reciprocal Permit" so you must also have a valid AZ fishing license. Otherwise a Utah Non Res 7-day license is $32.
Here is the link: http://wildlife.utah.gov/dwr/licenses/
Thanks Champ & hope you didn't mind me adding to your post.....
That is some important stuff right there. Thanks guys for keeping us informed. And legal.
I called Richard at Liar's Corner this morning. These are his prices on the crawlers.
$70 per flat which should give 42 dozen crawlers each.
He said he would need at least two weeks notice to put in an order like we are talking about. So next thing I guess is to figure out the amount we need. I'm thinking 4 flats for everyone. One flat per trailer, and one left over for anyone camping. Let me know....
I've never taken this route but sounds like we'll need to figure out best route. Don't know if it'll be fixed by then.... From the AZ Game and Fish Feb 28th report:
If you're planning on heading up to Page or Lake Powell, here's some additional information from the Arizona Department of Transportation on the US 89 closure. On the morning of Feb. 20, an apparent landslide ripped through a section of the highway along a mountain slope about 25 miles south of Page, buckling more than 150 of the roadway and tearing the pavement up in six-foot-high sections. The significant roadway damage forced ADOT to close a 23-mile-long stretch of the highway (at mileposts 523-546) between the US 89A junction near Bitter Springs to the State Route 98 junction near Page.
ADOT says that US 89 will be closed for the immediate future as geotechnical experts and ADOT's engineers examine the mountain slope and roadbed to determine the exact cause of the damage, and what steps are required to reconstruct the roadway and get it back into shape for travelers. At this time, there is no timetable for reopening the highway. Detours are in place for motorists traveling to and from Page and southern Utah. These routes are US 160 and SR 98 directly to and from Page, and US 89A and US 89 through Kanab, Utah. More information on the detours can be found at http://azdot.gov/CCPartnerships/News/NRel3404.asp. For up-to-date information on the US 89 closure, visit www.azdot.gov/us89.
yea LLL showed me that a couple of days ago. Might hinder out route of travel
The US 89 closure at Bitter Springs (US 89A junction to the North Rim) is not an issue for us. Our route of travel has us turning off US 89 a few miles before the closure onto US 160 towards Tuba City. Here's a map link: http://mapq.st/Z71qXa You'll need to zoom in a bit.
We can, however, expect a little additional traffic between the Tuba City turnoff (US 160) & the junction of AZ 98 east of Tuba City as this is the detour route(s) around the road closure.
This road closure sure does suck for those going to Page, not to mention for the Page area in general. It'll be quite a while before it's fixed. Thought i read on Wayne's Words that the travel time to Page has increased by 50min - 1 hour due to the detours? Unless you know the shortcuts thru the reservation that is!
Spark,
One flat per 4 man boat for 5 days fishin works for me. However you skin the cat thats 25 worms per day per man. Thats 50 bait ups for me. Can't remember ever using more that that many. True story: One year Dick ran out of crawlers on a trip up there once before I ever met him. Turns out one of his long time buddies was chumming with them and Dick never saw him do it. :banghead: They were in seperate boats is why. :angry4: Man, I gut laughed when he told me that. Anyway, your estimate should work and if theres any leftovers...they keep!
I know it's going to be to many, but I'm sure we would rather have more than not. We can talk about it more at the meeting. At that time I'm hoping we can walk away with a more accurate head count. I don't plan on putting the order in until the middle of April so we have some time.
I usually only use a half crawler as well, depends on the amount of people going to determine needs.
one crawler per harness half crawler for jiggin. we do alot of draggin when were slab huntin. my cuz says catch 3 eyes on a jig to each one caught on a spinner. so im gunna try to mostly jiggin, bangin the bottom and feelin fior the pressure bite. say two doz a day max times probable 5 good days of fishin. thats ten doz. per fisherdude. jeeze thats alot put me in for 8 doz.
Really starting to get excited about this trip. Looking forward to seeing everyone and learning some new techniques. It does look like our daughter and son-in-law will be coming up with us but they will be wanting to stay in the trailer with us. Guess they decided they didn't want to rough it as much as they thought they would. Hope this will still work out as far as fitting everyone in. Will see you guys next weekend at the meeting and hopefully more things can be set. I look forward to seeing what everyone else will be using at Powell so I can get and idea of what to bring. See ya there.
About 2 months out, yeah I'm getting excited. I heard they may end up having some kind of temp fix for 89 in place so we may not have traffic/detour issues. I'll post if I hear anything. I'm glad to see we have a lot of folks wanting to attempt this trip. It's a lot of fun. Hopefully the spring wind plays nice.
OK cousinlll, update YOUR spreadsheet for next weekend's meeting so we can discuss. ;D We now have tritoon's daughter and son-in-law are coming, and DesertRat and CampinNana are out. FishHawk still maybe. I think we can still make that 2nd trailer work. I really haven't done any research on tackle and need to spend significant time on the other message board you guys setup to figure out what to buy. Hoping I don't have to buy much and can make my lindy rigs or jigs work out.
Quote from: mrokusek on March 03, 2013, 08:34 PMOK cousinlll, update YOUR spreadsheet for next weekend's meeting so we can discuss. ;D
:lol_hitting: :icon_jokercolor:
Ok, so we'll put TRITOON & family in one trailer which still leaves one full/queen size bedroom open.....
So that leaves Brian & friend, Chris, Joe & Dick, Matt, Dave & myself w/ possibly Fish Hawk to fill the remaining open bedroom in that trailer plus the second trailer? But like Brian mentioned in a previous post, there's no sense in packing guys into trailers so I'm still open to discussing the 3rd trailer option. It's all up to you guys as I have no preference one way or the other. That gives us something to think about for our discussion either this weekend or sometime in the near future.
Oh, by the way - Fish Hawk your welcome to car pool with Dave & I if you're able to put up with my driving for 8 hours....... :dance:
Thoughts? Did I leave somebody out?
Quote from: WheatThin on March 03, 2013, 05:23 PMI heard they may end up having some kind of temp fix for 89 in place so we may not have traffic/detour issues. I'll post if I hear anything. Hopefully the spring wind plays nice.
Sound hopeful & shouldn't be too much of an issue for us. As for the spring wind, plenty of places to hide with all the canyons off the main channel. It blew 15-20 mph on us last year without issues but it's something we need to expect. Two years ago my wife & I were dressing in layers as it was a bit chilly but last year I think Dave & I were in shorts for part of the trip/days.
once again repeat after cuz larry the road issue is north of where we turn. not an issue unless y u want to drive to page load ur boat and take the boat to halls. hmmm that might be fun. how many mile is that? no i gots to have the jeep for campin.
LLL,
Since Desert Rat and Campin Nana are out, we picked up Dick's brother in our party and will probly use his Searay and fish 3. As for the trailer... we got room for one more body to share the rent. Hope to make it to Rosey this weekend to hang wit da group. :dance: :dance:
OK, So it sounds like we're back to the 3 trailers...... :lol_hitting:
Sorry, I'll clarify... I know that the 89 is shutdown ahead of our turn for halls. I just meant the rerouted traffic and detour traffic affecting our travels. Also, seems most have done this trip but for those who have not, here is a safety tip. Please make sure you make sure your bearings are ready to go on your axle. Also this road has ate up my trailer tires a few times so if you are due to change don't risk it. The road isn't forgiving and very little areas to pull off to change a tire.
Easy there fellas! :lol_hitting:
Quote from: WheatThin on March 05, 2013, 08:08 PMhere is a safety tip. Please make sure you make sure your bearings are ready to go on your axle. Also this road has ate up my trailer tires a few times so if you are due to change don't risk it. The road isn't forgiving and very little areas to pull off to change a tire.
OUTSTANDING WORDS of WISDOM! Thanks for bringing that up. I carry 2 spare tires along with a complete hub/spindle assembly for my trailer, maybe overkill a bit but...... Certainly not trying to make people nervous but please take some time to go over your equipment. Another thought is to travel in groups or at least keep in touch periodically so somebody has some idea of where others are at. But all in all, it's a really scenic road trip so enjoy the ride!
How many miles are we on bad road? I've taken the Apache Trail six mile stretch dozen times or more and assume it isn't worse then that right?
Mat, look up the Moki Dugway... This stretch of road is on our route, about an hour out of Halls Crossing... It is just beautiful... It's not that the roads are that bad, it's because it is so desolate a lot of the way through S. Utah...
Matt:
With the exception of The Moki Dugway, all our route is over either US or state highways. Like Chris mentioned, they're not that bad - just advising those unfamiluar to make sure you look over your equipment as recommended by Wheatthin. We are not trying to make you nervious about making this trip. But at the same time, we want to be sure everybody has good information & is prepaired for the just in case.
And for Freshwater & TRITOON, I would advise you also google The Moki Dugway. With the rigs you guys have I would suggest you not take this short cut. We can talk more about this later.....
oops thats where me and cuz part ways. the mogi dugi was no problem. good level gravel road bed. grade is not that bad and the distance is also not that long. the tougher grade by far is those two coming up to flag. indeed the grade out of superior and the rosey hill headed to globe are both tougher grades than mogi duki for my rig. duki duki is nice and wide. the only issue with dogey duki is lookin down it has a nice drop off when u get toward the top. if uve done fish creek hill before this is cake. take the short cut unless u want to do the drive and hit a dive hotel in blanding then drive into the lake in the morn. bout 1.5 hours from blanding.
Understood. I think main issue is not just road style but the fact that you're 8 hours from home in the middle of nowhere and I'm not sure if the AZCA 911 list is accessible out there. :icon_scratch: When we get closer, perhaps we can somewhat caravan there. I realize this can be a hassle if someone wants to stop and stuff so maybe not the whole group but would be smart to at least have 2 vehicles in each group in case one has issues there is another car to transport to next city, cell coverage, etc. My issue would be losing cell coverage on one of these roads I'm up a creek without a paddle.
Tom, we need to determine if we are both taking boats, truck, etc. up there or what. I'm a little nervous taking my rig up there - less the boat and more the suburban. Would like to hear FishHawk's fishing plans and any others currently not assigned a boat and see if we can consolidate. My goal this trip will be catching a 4+lb walleye beating my Lake Mary catch last year. By the way, when is this trip in terms of spawn time for walleye?
Quote from: mrokusek on March 06, 2013, 07:39 AM
Would like to hear FishHawk's fishing plans and any others currently not assigned a boat and see if we can consolidate.
Rolln' with Cuz LLL
Quote from: cousinlll on March 05, 2013, 11:21 PM
And for Freshwater & TRITOON, I would advise you also google The Moki Dugway. With the rigs you guys have I would suggest you not take this short cut. We can talk more about this later.....
I did listen to you guys last year and thought about the drive up there. That is the reasoning I gave to Patty to get rid of her beloved Tahoe and bring aboard a new Dodge Ram with the wimpy Cummins so I should be good. I better be or I am in deep stuff.
Our daughter just informed us that her schedule at work got changed (why do women have to give birth when a fishing trip is planned) so they will not be coming along with us. So another room has opened up in the third trailer. Getting close guys. :blob1:
Sounds like Matt and Wally can takes those rooms to fill up that trailer to make everyone comfortable.
I'm going to ping wallyg today to put a bug in his ear about this trip?
Would there be any desire to do a campfire any of the nights? What's the situation near the trailers for campfires, say for Friday night fish fry? Just wondering if I need to bring firewood.
yall just come on down to the campsite for a fire, bring brownies and vanilla bean.
Quote from: mrokusek on April 12, 2013, 07:43 AMWould there be any desire to do a campfire any of the nights? What's the situation near the trailers for campfires, say for Friday night fish fry? Just wondering if I need to bring firewood.
If I remember correctly, there are no fire pits in the family unit area. Like Rats mentioned, the campground does have fire pits & if a campfire is something others are interested in it'll be a very short drive to invade Tom's campsite & make yourselves at home! :greengrin:
I read Larrys comments on caravaning and definitly want to join youLarry as we discussed last weekend.
Coordination is going to be a challange for Tim Joe and I as my brother is driving in from Scotsdale that morning to load my boat and Joe and my stuff. I will need some idea of your planned separture time so we can establish a time for Tim to get to my place and the time it will tak to load up. We will have everything ready to go, just a matter of loading in the truck. My boat can be loaded in advance of course.
Another minor item has come up at the last moment that will not involve any delays on our part relative to leaving early Sat morning, just a real pain for myself if worst case happens. I have been asked to attend a meeting in LV on Thursday the 25th to review a possible year plus job. I have been promised a return flight either on that day of the following afternoon (possible late night work for me is all). Such is life, but really need the work.
Dick
Let's make a new thread on this topic...... Like we need more Lake Powell threads! :greengrin:
firewood is an issue for me. im gunna go to paul bunyan firewood and score a couple bags of pecan or mesquite so if we want to do some steaks well have real woood for the grill.
As for the # of people. Correct my count here.
Trailer #1:
Wadefisherman
Wadefisherman's friend
redmule
Trailer #2:
HallibutWarrior
suerrj
suerrj's brother
Trailer #3:
Tritoon
Patty
Trailer fill-ins:
FishHawk
cousinlll
mrokusek
Campers:
menrats
TheMerlotKid
Freshwater
Wheatthin
Wheatthin's friend
I count 15 people, I will post in the group meals forum but wanted to confirm that I'm including everyone on that list for attending the group meals.
But Wheatthin and friend are only coming up for half the week - don't know which half. Don't know if they wanted to be part of the meals....
Quote from: mrokusek on April 15, 2013, 03:07 PM
I count 15 people, I will post in the group meals forum but wanted to confirm that I'm including everyone on that list for attending the group meals.
Actually, I count 16 if you count Wheatthin and his friend. Otherwise, I count 14.
Quote from: mrokusek on April 15, 2013, 03:07 PM
Trailer #3:
Tritoon
Patty
Ok, so I'm thinking that Billy Ho & I will bunk with Tritoon, if that's ok Wade........... :dance:
Looks like I'm in trailer #1 or #2. I heard redmule snores like crazy. That's a concern!
Hmmm. Decisions decisions.... I'll go with the trailer that thinks they'll be asleep earlier rather than later.
In trailer 1 and 2, either case, am I on the ground? Not a big deal - just need to know if I need to bring my air mattress or sleep with the bed bugs :-/
Quote from: mrokusek on April 15, 2013, 09:42 PM
Looks like I'm in trailer #1 or #2. I heard redmule snores like crazy. That's a concern!
Hmmm. Decisions decisions.... I'll go with the trailer that thinks they'll be asleep earlier rather than later.
In trailer 1 and 2, either case, am I on the ground? Not a big deal - just need to know if I need to bring my air mattress or sleep with the bed bugs :-/
EAR PLUGS!
I'll take the master bedroom at the other end of the house... CPAP machine should hold the decibels down...
It's not really that bad, Brian is just being a MEANY because my fish catching technology and scientific approach are gaining on his pull-it-out-of-his-butt luck... :3some:
Mrokusek, I assume you are Matt, right? Anyway, you are welcome in our trailer if you like using an airmattress and sleeping bag in the living room. To my knowledge none of us in cabin 2 snore or if we do, it is very lite to non existant. I ussually travel with nose spray just in case of allergys that can cause nasal congestion and lead to snoring. I have bunked with both my brother Tim and Joe D with no problems noticed.
Anybody know the Utah regulations as far as firearms, I don't travel without mine but want to be legal. (sort of)
;D Matt on the snoring all you have to do is get up, go over there and plant a big kiss on him. Then he can wait all nite for you to return (might even help to slip him the tongue) :o :o :o :3some:
Freshwater, you crusty old devil... I like it... Sounds like a plan to me...
:lol_hitting:
Tritoon, here's what I know. My Az ccw has reciprocity in Utah. If on an Indian Rez, keep it in the vehicle. Same as Az. (Except San Carlos open carry is allowed.) what else is there to know? Practice, practice.
Quote from: cousinlll on April 15, 2013, 09:35 PM
Quote from: mrokusek on April 15, 2013, 03:07 PM
Trailer #3:
Tritoon
Patty
Ok, so I'm thinking that Billy Ho & I will bunk with Tritoon, if that's ok Wade........... :dance:
It was a struggle but Patty finally agreed to take one of the other beds so that we can bunk together. Should be an interesting week.
Quote from: Halibut Warrior on April 16, 2013, 08:11 PM
Tritoon, here's what I know. My Az ccw has reciprocity in Utah. If on an Indian Rez, keep it in the vehicle. Same as Az. (Except San Carlos open carry is allowed.) what else is there to know? Practice, practice.
My Washington ccw just expired and I have not gotten one here as yet, so I guess it better stay in the open. Thanks HW
I'll shack up in Trailer #2 with Hallibut Warrior, sauerjj, etc. I'll bring my sleeping pad, sleeping bag, etc. Sleeping in living room - I gotta see this. If this trailer stays up later than me, I may shift to other trailer and will play by ear. Hallibut/sauerrj - any of you bringing a full sized coffee maker, coffee, etc. to split between 4 of us? I can bring mine and/or coffee - let me know. I need, really need, just 16oz in the AM and I'm good to go.
Also, anyone know if Sportsmans or Bass Pro has Lake Powell Fish-N-Map? I'm assuming I get the 'north' one or if you have other suggestion on type of map to get and where, let me know.
Finally, the directions for the drive up. I don't know which post had all the talk about turnoff, and road issues. I did print out the mapquest directions on the first page of this discussion. Cousinlll, how do those instructions look - are they still valid? If I recall, there aren't any road closures we will hit but we might just be impacted by heavier traffic because of other closures, correct?
Quote from: TRITOON on April 16, 2013, 10:02 PM
Quote from: cousinlll on April 15, 2013, 09:35 PM
Quote from: mrokusek on April 15, 2013, 03:07 PM
Trailer #3:
Tritoon
Patty
Ok, so I'm thinking that Billy Ho & I will bunk with Tritoon, if that's ok Wade........... :dance:
It was a struggle but Patty finally agreed to take one of the other beds so that we can bunk together. Should be an interesting week.
You do know I was not serious
Matt,
I think you will find us to be early to bed group. Not much for late night any more. As for coffee maker, HW is planning to bring one but do not know about the size. I am the only one of group that does not drink coffee. Our plans for breakfast will be cold cereal, donuts or danish. I don't know if you want to join with us on this or with the group you will be fishing with. Our lunch plans are simple and going to be made on the boat so we can stay out all day baring wind.
The North map is the one you want but they are expensive and whoever has your boat will surly have one. All the new depth finder/GPS units also have HD maps on them as well. The road route up there is pretty straight forward and with a GPS should be no problems. The road closure is not on our route so it is also no factor.
Like Dick mentioned, the Fish-n-Map Lake Powell North is the best one to get. It'll defiantly comes in handy for first timers and I know I'll still be using it to remember which canyon is where.
There should hopefully be no issues in the travel route. I encourage those that have larger rigs to google "Moki Dugway" to get idea of the shortcut route we take that's just outside of Mexican Hat.
Matt, I'm bringing a 12 cup stainless Cuisinart takes #4 cones. I plan on making a pot for bkfst and one for the thermos everyday. You Are welcome to share.
my weather forecast looks like great weather through Monday with low winds yehaw!
Just checked at Waynesword, and he said Crappie will peak in the next two weeks... :dance:
Hoping same for Walleye, but few reports... :banghead:
Quote from: Halibut Warrior on April 18, 2013, 09:14 PM
Matt, I'm bringing a 12 cup stainless Cuisinart takes #4 cones. I plan on making a pot for bkfst and one for the thermos everyday. You Are welcome to share.
I'll bring mine as well so we can blow a fuse running both in the AM.
Quote from: cousinlll on March 05, 2013, 11:21 PM
Matt:
With the exception of The Moki Dugway, all our route is over either US or state highways. Like Chris mentioned, they're not that bad - just advising those unfamiluar to make sure you look over your equipment as recommended by Wheatthin. We are not trying to make you nervious about making this trip. But at the same time, we want to be sure everybody has good information & is prepaired for the just in case.
And for Freshwater & TRITOON, I would advise you also google The Moki Dugway. With the rigs you guys have I would suggest you not take this short cut. We can talk more about this later.....
Larry what other route would you suggest. Patty about got sick just watching the video. It is either take another way or drug her like they had to do with B.A.
Put blinders on her and tell her time to take a nap. It looks worse than it actually is. It saves a hour driving from the main hwy.
the other way is through blanding. its not bad.
Freshwater & Tritoon:
Have added some additional info & Mapquest link here: http://forum.azcrappie.com/index.php/topic,1741.msg11995/topicseen.html#msg11995
Thanks LLL that was the only other way I could see but wanted to make sure. I am still trying to talk her into taking a chill pill and enjoying the scenery.
The only time I went up this grade was in 1978.Yes it is somewaht scary, but the video somewhat is an exagerated view of the drive as I remember it. For instance it appears that the road is very narrow, but if you look at the cars coming at the vehilce doing the filming you will notice that the road is in fact quite wide. I cant remeber if it was entirely wide the whole route but remember I felt very comfortable on my descent with a crew cab truck, with a very large truck camper mounted on it and pulling an 18 ft runabout. On the descent you are driving on the inside lane well away from the drop offs. On the climb I remeber being able to stay away from the edge except when we encounterd an oncoming vehilcle. Since I was climbing slowly, iit was easy to move over and feel comfortable. I would say you should not avoid this rout, it looks scarrier thn it is.
Thanks LLL :3some: It'll take a little longer, but I found out that if moma ain't happy ain't nobody happy. :bootyshake:
Quote from: freshwater on April 20, 2013, 03:21 PM
Thanks LLL :3some: It'll take a little longer, but I found out that if moma ain't happy ain't nobody happy. :bootyshake:
Cop that. My wife was wanting to know if the Merlot Kid had the name of a divorce attorney until I relented so looks like we will be taking the long way also. Sure sucks to be whipped. :crybaby2:
If my wife wasn't driving a rig I wouldn't tell her. Let her find out when we got there. :violent-smiley-007: than she may have to finish the trip here self
That looked like a totally awesome ride. I like Apache trail and that looks to put that to shame. So joking aside - anyone taking that route?
Quote from: mrokusek on April 21, 2013, 08:47 AMThat looked like a totally awesome ride. I like Apache trail and that looks to put that to shame. So joking aside - anyone taking that route?
It's actually somewhat like Fish Creek Hill from what I remember. Haven't taken the Trail in a few years though. Like was mentioned before, the video makes it seem worse than it actually is. Yes, there's a couple narrow spots where there's room for only 1 vehicle but it's shorts lived. Besides, it's only a 3 mile stretch of gravel road. And to answer your question - Heck yeah I'm taking that route!! What's life without a little adventure anyway........
Ok guys... It can not be any worse than the ramp at San Carlos witch we've all done.
I'm with Larry, it looks worse than it really is. Just take it slow and easy for the three miles. I rember how easy the descent was in my mind becaues the road seemed to be extra widw. I suspect it was made this way for Semi's moving stuff to Hall Crossing.
Did it in September, fish creek way worse and more narrow. I wouldn't be concerned.
Quote from: WheatThin on April 21, 2013, 06:18 PM
Did it in September, fish creek way worse and more narrow. I wouldn't be concerned.
spot on. no worries mates. take your mates. fish creek is ten times worse.
Alright you all, it saddens me but at this time I've got to back out. With everything that's happened with Kyle and the loss of his father he is not ready to go fishing. I've tried to recruit a few others but because I only had a few days to fish since I'll be using most of my vacation later this year to get married I couldn't find anyone else to go with me. I'm not prepared to make this trip solo so you all have fun. Luckily I hadn't committed to any cabins or group meals so I'm not affecting the trip. You all have a blast and hopefully I'll get a second chance to hit up my favorite lake this fall.
double bummer dudes give our best to kyle. and well see you later. bhc wedding still on?
Quote from: menrats on April 24, 2013, 06:29 AMbhcc wedding still on?
There ya go WheatThin, Tom just saved you some $$! He'll give the bride away while Piscolli officiates. Honeymoon in Sandman's RV - if it's a rockn'.....
Thoughts & prayers to kyle & family.....
And the hits just keep coming. My sister had a heart attack and I am on the first plane out in the morning headed for Oregon. Sorry guys, I know this is very inconvenient and will cause some readjusting but I really don't have any other choice. We were both looking so forward to this trip and will really miss not being able to go. Everyone have a safe drive and a fantastic successful trip. God Speed.
Really sorry to hear that Wade! Thoughts & prayers to your family also!
Our thoughts and prayers are with you and Yours also Wade
So sorry to hear that Tritoon. Hope all gets well.
Hey, someone is bringing up a flat or 1/2 flat of worms for menrats and I right? Or did you need us to get those ahead of time and find room in our coolers?
Quote from: mrokusek on April 24, 2013, 09:42 PMHey, someone is bringing up a flat or 1/2 flat of worms for menrats and I right? Or did you need us to get those ahead of time and find room in our coolers?
Go here: http://forum.azcrappie.com/index.php/topic,1731.15.html
That really sucks for you and your family Wade, sorry to here that. Hope all is well.
Me and Judy are praying for you and the family Wade.
Sorry to hear the news Wade..